Canadian Slag Episode 16 - One Shall Stand, Many Will Fall

[Code of Honor]

Another packed episode where we talk about Transformers we have difficulty transforming...and we call ourselves fans. Next we re-answered previously asked Hasbro questions before moving on to the BATTLE ROYALE where we we're asked the questions and Daniel gives us the official answer. Then we got to know Jetfire from pre-G1 to ROTF and wrapped up with "Damn I wished I designed that!" and a special piece presented by fellow Slagger Duncan (dak)

[Code of Honor]

Episode 16 - One Shall Stand, Many Will Fall (http://www.cybertron.ca/podcast/Canadian%20Slag%2016%20-%20One%20Shall%20Stand,%20Many%20Will%20Fall.mp3)
(http://www.mediafire.com/?nz21tzzmkvi)
Host: Gord w/ Chris, Daniel, and Kyle
- Transformation blunders (http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=17737)
- Previously answered Hasbro Q and A questions
- Battle royale. Who is the most evil deception? Who is the best fighter? Who is the lamest character or toy?
- Getting to know Jetfire
- Damn I wished I designed that! - Robobuz (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/other-news-20/robobuz-toy-model-pre-orders-are-open-168297/)!
- Two bots, One cube

We apologize for the bad sound quality, we had a few technical glitches.

DOWNLOAD NOW! (http://www.cybertron.ca/podcast/Canadian%20Slag%2016%20-%20One%20Shall%20Stand,%20Many%20Will%20Fall.mp3)

[soundwaveCA]

- Battle royale. Who is the most evil deception? Who is the best fighter? Who is the lamest character or toy?


I dont know you people anymore, all that talk and Beast Wars Rampage was never named....BLASPHEMY! :p

[Dark Rage]

I dont know you people anymore, all that talk and Beast Wars Rampage was never named....BLASPHEMY! :p

One word: Transmutate

Thus, FAIL for evil!

[GMfan]

Remind me never to record with an untested mic during a thunderstorm....

I'll sound better for the next episode listeners, apologies for sounding like a muttering idiot during parts of this episode. More specifically during Damn I wish I desgned that and the Battle Royale. I just wanted to give props to another garage kit company for making an alt mode we've never seen in Transformers history. Who DOESN'T want an articulated bus transformer!?

As for Battle Royale Lamest character for me was Energon Ironhide, I can't understand how a 30 foot robot can take such abuse from a pissy little teenager/G1 Wheelie....since I hate things that constantly rhyme to the point that there are times when he shouldn't and he tried and couldn't pull it off....toywise I picked the more recent Universe Cheetor and Dinobot...even the Henkei Dinobot looked good but it was still a terrible mold...both of them are terrible to display but Cheetor I'll admit is fun to play with.

[Stapler]

I'm surprised that Grimlock and the dinobots didn't make the best fighters category. How many transformers have literally kicked Unicron's ass and lived to brag about it! :p
I personally wouldn't consider the Japanese characters since they are, in true anime fashion, insanely overpowered compared to their predasessors. I would love to see those characters handled in western styled stories, though.:)
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the Energon Omnicon Skyblast. He was an homage to the cartoon character model of G1 Skyfire/Jetfire, if I'm not mistaken.

[Protoman]

As for Battle Royale Lamest character for me was Energon Ironhide, I can't understand how a 30 foot robot can take such abuse from a pissy little teenager/G1 Wheelie.....

What's even more funny is his voice actor in Superlink (Japan) is known for only doing loser/nerdy/annoying characters.

I'm surprised that Grimlock and the dinobots didn't make the best fighters category. How many transformers have literally kicked Unicron's ass and lived to brag about it! :p
I personally wouldn't consider the Japanese characters since they are, in true anime fashion, insanely overpowered compared to their predasessors. I would love to see those characters handled in western styled stories, though.:)
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the Energon Omnicon Skyblast. He was an homage to the cartoon character model of G1 Skyfire/Jetfire, if I'm not mistaken.

While the Dinobots are great and all, they are far from top dog in fighting, even outside of the J-G1 cast, the Dinobots would be hard pressed against Sixshot or even to bring back in the mention of Movie Prime.

I was going to mention all the homages like Storm Jet from RID and what not but ehh......

[UltraPrimal]

Great episode guys. I always liked Jetfire. I guess I'm a sucker for the Canadian colour scheme.


Oh, and see you at TFCon, Kyle.;)

[Team Jetfire]

I would love to go to TFcon next year. Better start saving the clams.

Oh and for some reason it sounds like a have a lisp when I talk. I don't have a lisp, so I guess I have to talk more clearly...

And how about two bots, one cube..hilarious. I was at Logan's Football practice listening to the pod cast and loling during it..heard it a bunch before...still makes me laugh.

[soundwaveCA]

I would love to go to TFcon next year. Better start saving the clams.

Oh and for some reason it sounds like a have a lisp when I talk. I don't have a lisp, so I guess I have to talk more clearly...

And how about two bots, one cube..hilarious. I was at Logan's Football practice listening to the pod cast and loling during it..heard it a bunch before...still makes me laugh.

<--- Put it on my chest Kyle :P

[Dark Rage]

Team_Jetfire, you gotta wear that Spiderman/Bikini T-shirt if you ever come!

[Team Jetfire]

<--- Put it on my chest Kyle :P

lol

nonononononononononononoonon....


Team_Jetfire, you gotta wear that Spiderman/Bikini T-shirt if you ever come!

Deal. I will have the best tan lines at the whole convention.

[Protoman]

I forgot to post the FINAL BATTLE: Star Saber vs. Deathsaurus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdqrb9OKc0

I wish I had a subtitled version, they insult/swear at each other back and forth the whole time.

[Dark Rage]

Deal. I will have the best tan lines at the whole convention.

Awesome, and someone will put it on your chest. :p

[Team Jetfire]

:eek:...


By 'it' I hope you mean G1 Jetfire MISB. :D

[omegalaw]

Great episode, it was really interesting hearing everyone’s opinion on the epitome of various transformers extremes. As always the getting to know a segment was informative and fun.

[GMfan]

Great episode, it was really interesting hearing everyone’s opinion on the epitome of various transformers extremes. As always the getting to know a segment was informative and fun.

If there's anymore we missed I'm sure we could cover them in a future episode...

PS: you should like our next "getting to know" ;)

[Protoman]

Yes please make requests. I need ammo!

[GMfan]

Yes please make requests. I need ammo!

You're out? I got show idea till the end of October :P

[Team Jetfire]

Yes please make requests. I need ammo!


I would love to hear a bit about all the major Japanese characters. I learned a lot last time about how great star saber and deathazar (sp?) are. But there are still a bunch of other great characters.

and Fearswoop, love to hear more about fearswoop. :P

[GMfan]

Deathsaurus here, Dezarus in Japan so close enough :P

Problem is there's usually only one incarnation of many of these Japanese characters (unless you wanna count the crappy Universe King Atlas which was a repaint of the G2 European exclusive Skyquake) but rest assured we'll be covering quite a bit of the Japanese continuity in the future so all listeners will learn about some fiction and crazy characters they didn't know before. ;)

As for Fearswoop, the only other known use of the name was for another G2 European exclusive (http://tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Fearswoop/fearswoop.htm) (like Skyquake). With an F-22 alt mode it's a little surprising that Starscream's mold wasn't picked for the more recent Fearswoop. The original Fearswoop had some awesome stickers but the overall yellow colour would make for a terrible fighter jet. :P

[UltraPrimal]

and Fearswoop, love to hear more about fearswoop. :P
What about Skyjack? Everyone should know more about the awesome Skyjack!

[powerprime]

Episode 16 - One Shall Stand, Many Will Fall
(http://www.mediafire.com/?nz21tzzmkvi)
- Battle royale. Who is the most evil deception? Who is the best fighter? Who is the lamest character or toy?



Lamest toy for me is Movie Deluxe Scorponok. The Legends class has a better transformation.

[Team Jetfire]

Lamest toy for me is Movie Deluxe Scorponok. The Legends class has a better transformation.


That is a really good point. To me, movie Scorponok only has one mode. :p

[GMfan]

What about Skyjack? Everyone should know more about the awesome Skyjack!

Another quicky, Skyjack started as a G2 Decepticon Cyberjet (http://www.tfu.info/1995/Decepticon/Skyjack/skyjack.htm) in 1995. With a simple "pushing" missile, he would transform into a F-117 with the front end black and the rear in flames (stealthy!). Here's his bio excerpt to get a better idea of the character:

"Rumored to be sympathetic to the Autobot cause - once photographed meeting with Optimus Prime. In reality, a master spy who can' t be trusted. He'll buy you a glass of high-octane turbo juice one minute, then steal secrets from you the next. Activates stealth armor to cloak body from Autobot radar. Practices shooting at cars with missile launcher alongside his mentor, Dreadwing."

That was pretty much the last we heard of Skyjack for a looong time. However the mold was used another couple of times. Again in G2 as an Autobot, Air Raid (http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/AirRaid/airraid.htm), with a colour scheme that looks like it was homaged recently in Energon Treadshot (http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Treadshot/treadshot.htm).

Fast forward 9 years (2004) to the original Universe line and this mold was released in NA packaged as again as Air Raid (http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/AirRaid/airraid.htm) (and included fellow cyberjet Wind Sheer (http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/WindSheer/windsheer.htm)). Also during this year in Japan this mold was also reused in the Robotmasters line as Delta Seeker (http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/DeltaSeeker/deltaseeker.htm) (Autobot) and also was packaged with a second cyberjet, a Decepticon, X-Gunner (http://www.tfu.info/2004/Destron/X-Gunner/x-gunner.htm).

And that brings us to the latest Skyjack homage in Universe 2.0, the Walmart exclusive Skyfall.

Lamest toy for me is Movie Deluxe Scorponok. The Legends class has a better transformation.

Oh boy...how could I miss him? He was on a shelf next to me during recording as well :P

That is a really good point. To me, movie Scorponok only has one mode. :p

But at least the claws were a cool gimmick....the tail on the other hand only works half the time....

[Protoman]

Movie Scorponok's BK "alt mode" was even better then his Deluxe toys "robot mode"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk3Rz3-3UNQ

Yeah yeah...... pretty weak, but 14.99 compared to free with a kids meal (2.99) or .98 cents........ not bad =P

[powerprime]

I bought the Blackout/Scorponok Toys-R-Us box set when it was on sale. So I got Blackout at regular price and a free Scorponok... Scorponok was still over priced.

[Sting Rose]

What, no evil shout-outs for BW Rampage? Killed an entire colony with his bare hands, and then went to a base and devoured a number of the 'bots there? Not to mention he was insane, cruel, and so sadistic he literally fed off and gained strength from negative emotions like terror and hatred, and pretty much lived and loved to make others suffer. Wasn't picky about whom, either.

Oh man, I hope he comes back in some form or other. XD

But yeah, awesome possum episode, as per always. I'm always amazed at how much you guys cover in an episode, it's always a joy and fun to listen to. Though 2 Bots, 1 Cube proooobably shouldn't be listened at 4:20 in the AM, it was really, really hard to contain the laughter. XD I'm also endlessly amused that the Protoman could ever mis-transform anything. The World is over. haha. XD

You all rock, seriously. And it's great to hear that you've got plenty of material to last you a good while. Looking forward to it!

[Ultra Maverick]

Great episode guys...

So I watched the final battle between Victory Sabre and Dezaurus, and holy beans, that was epic

Good call Protoman!

[GMfan]

What, no evil shout-outs for BW Rampage? Killed an entire colony with his bare hands, and then went to a base and devoured a number of the 'bots there? Not to mention he was insane, cruel, and so sadistic he literally fed off and gained strength from negative emotions like terror and hatred, and pretty much lived and loved to make others suffer. Wasn't picky about whom, either.


You know I had him on a shelf next to me during recording but then I saw Megatron and quickly weighed in he was more evil but I will admit Rampage is a close second. He and Megatron were evil in every way except Rampage came short in one aspect.

He wasn't an evil genius, and to be truly evil you have to have the mentality to manipulate, to plan, to execute; Everything BW Megatron exemplifies. ;)

Hence my quick decision :P

Though 2 Bots, 1 Cube proooobably shouldn't be listened at 4:20 in the AM

2 Bots 1 Cube proooobably shouldn't be listened to ever :P

Great episode guys...

So I watched the final battle between Victory Sabre and Dezaurus, and holy beans, that was epic

Good call Protoman!

Well if we need an "official" answer we know where to go :P But if anyone else has some battle royale questions throw'em out there and we'll cover them.

[powerprime]

But if anyone else has some battle royale questions throw'em out there and we'll cover them.

With all the Optimus Primes (including Primals) in the Transformers multi-verse, who would win in a Battle royale? Answer including & excluding Japanese verses, if there is a difference.

[Team Jetfire]

Does Star Saber count as a Prime, if so I would bet it would be up to him and Big Convoy.


As for BW Rampage, I agree. He did kick all sorts of ass, and his toy is pretty great too, good call!

I wish I recored in my toy room, I would have a lot more stuff to think about while recording...lol.

[GMfan]

Does Star Saber count as a Prime, if so I would bet it would be up to him and Big Convoy.

Technically no he doesn't count as a Prime, though he was an Autobot commander it doesn't make him officially a "Prime" (and as far as I know even by Japanese standards) They must have a Convoy/Conboy at the end of their name.

Consider it done powerprime....but it may take a while to get to :P

[powerprime]

Consider it done powerprime....but it may take a while to get to :P

Looking forward to hearing yours and the other casters thoughts on the subject. Whenever it might come out. ; )