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Super_Megatron 04-29-2015 11:10 AM

Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 

JLvatron 04-29-2015 12:16 PM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
Interesting. Although Pete has been quite adamant that it's not "3rd party" ban, but "IP Infringement" ban.

What is the difference?

Nobody knows.

MULTIPLEX 04-29-2015 12:41 PM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
Didn't this happen last year too? They still had 3P there I thought.

wervenom 04-29-2015 12:50 PM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
I remember hearing about this last year as well IIRC where they had a team of people confiscating it or something. Well I have never and probably will never go to a BotCon anyway. TF Con is good enough for me

venksta 05-02-2015 02:12 AM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JLvatron (Post 637118)
Interesting. Although Pete has been quite adamant that it's not "3rd party" ban, but "IP Infringement" ban.

What is the difference?

Nobody knows.

The term 3rd party is being mis-used by the fandom. Actual 3rd party refers to fully licensed products, like the Sentinel Megazarak action figure, Ultimetal Optimus Prime, Hot Toys' upcoming Optimus Prime figure, the various Loyal Subjects TF vinyl figures. These are all officially Transformer branded products, but since their not made by Hasbro or Takara, their considered "3rd party".

The items we call 3P, like MMC or Fansproject products, are its own category. These products obviously do not have any license from Hasbro, and what Pete is referring to as "IP infringement". I know the makers of these products, like FP and MMC, want it be categorized as "Independent" instead of "3rd party". We talked about this at a couple conventions. But its up to the fandom to make the wording change, if they are able to.

CBII 05-02-2015 03:22 AM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by venksta (Post 637665)
The term 3rd party is being mis-used by the fandom. Actual 3rd party refers to fully licensed products, like the Sentinel Megazarak action figure, Ultimetal Optimus Prime, Hot Toys' upcoming Optimus Prime figure, the various Loyal Subjects TF vinyl figures. These are all officially Transformer branded products, but since their not made by Hasbro or Takara, their considered "3rd party".

The items we call 3P, like MMC or Fansproject products, are its own category. These products obviously do not have any license from Hasbro, and what Pete is referring to as "IP infringement". I know the makers of these products, like FP and MMC, want it be categorized as "Independent" instead of "3rd party". We talked about this at a couple conventions. But its up to the fandom to make the wording change, if they are able to.


Well put. Sadly the fandom as a whole isn't smart enough for that.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot 05-02-2015 03:52 AM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
There's also a few 3P figures that aren't directly based on a Hasbro/Takara character, which wouldn't technically be IP infringement.

SleeplessKnight 05-02-2015 04:44 AM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whisky Tango Foxtrot (Post 637671)
There's also a few "Independent" figures that aren't directly based on a Hasbro/Takara character, which wouldn't technically be IP infringement.

Here, corrected that for ya!

justprime 05-02-2015 06:54 AM

Re: Report: 3rd Party Transformers Products Banned from BotCon 2015
 
As long as they continue to take this coarse of action it the greatest free advertising and attention draw for there products keep up he ban bot con makes us look more into what else is out there to fill the void hasbro refuses to fill especially with there new dumbed down product lines.


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