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Originally Posted by Jeepmanhastj
I'm getting a lil peeved at the scenario that TFcon made anyone who wanted an extra one pay for admission with each figure regardless.
Figures should have been sold separate from admission on its own, while still having the choice to combine prices.
I wondered if they were going to come out with a version for the Henkei Prime (the one I actually had at the time) and everyone with almost 100% certainty said - exclusive - no other ones will be made.
I would not have bought the TFCon exclusive if I had known the Henkei PC version was coming out.
The Henkei PC repaint will obviously look weird with a classics Prime if thats the majority out there.
I can see why they (FP) is making them for the Jap market so that they have a version for their HEnkei Primes but they should have been up front to everyone at the TFcon.
Did TFcon never have the idea to ask if FP would reproduce this again when this was all being planned??
First thing I would have asked is "would any other variations of it be made?"
If these molds cost so much to make
even at (say the toy cost $120) $120*500 = $60,000
They must have broke even.
Its not hard to introduce a new plastic colour liquid into these forms.
after the initial TFcon 500 run they probably stopped the machines - put in the new colours and whipped out the next 500 or 1000 or 2000 pieces.
So that said was Henkei Prime available in numbers as great as the Classics Prime?
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I'm not quite ready to let TFCon off the hook on this, until a full explanation of the contract with FP is made and confirmed, and FP is beyond reprieve as far as I am concerned.
When I heard about the exclusive I was basically disinterested. I was also very skeptical about the "exclusivity" and felt sure another version would show up. I talked about it with several people Friday night at the show. Unsure of whether an armour set could really be worth $160 I inquired with both convention staff and FP staff in no uncertain terms, as to whether the item would ever be re-released in any market under any conditions.
I was handed an unequivical "NO" in every case, and this was at one point backed up with the now infamous "broken mold" comments. As a result, I bought 2 sets, and sold them at cost to people at the show who really wanted them and had missed out. Then I decided a few days later to get one after all, because I wanted to suit up my prime and then see if I liked how it looked. So I never lost out on this at all, but I can understand how anyone who did has every right to be upset.
If either party knew about the upcoming Asia release at that point, their moral and legal responsibility was to clarify the plans and the semi-exclusivity of the armour set. Uttering lies or misleading people to ensure sales are made is the furthest thing from a "for the fans, by the fans" attitude possible and FP DO NOT have the right to do whatever they want when promises are made.
They may have a legal right, depending on their contract (or lack thereof?) with TFCON, so I'd like to hear more about what exactly was agreed on. Legal or not, it's still low and I've lost all respect for FP's claims of being a fan driven non-business, which is a party line they serve all over their site and marketing materials. For the record, I don't want these guys back at the next TFCON.
p.s. According to the FP response over at TFW2005, they are claiming they only decided to do this 2nd release once asian fans complained. This is unacceptable...and also highly unlikely given their claims of broken molds, etc. Further, the people claiming these 2 sets are totally different things, are plain silly. It's the same set, with chrome, end of story. The UM and SC sets are not the same story...they are overall totally different colour schemes, and are for different characters, not just different versions of a character in seperate markets. No one would have bought it at $160 at the show if it was coming out 2 months later for $90 + shipping. At the very least we deserved the right to make up our minds while properly informed.
My 2 cents....james