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03-06-2009, 06:04 AM
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Location: Heading back to Kyoto
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
Watchmen - Time of Death: 12:01am. Watchmen is officially ruined. How do you mess it up this bad? No wonder Alan Moore is always pissed when they make his books into movies. Nothing felt right, sure it looks good but it has no energy (and i don't just mean action) even the actors looked bored. This book is old school this movie lost all that. It wants to be cartoonish with a modern style. I'm sure it can be done, but it wasn't done here. Sad. The plot is there, but its not all about plot and framing, the characters have no character, they're all just cardboard cutouts in costume. Completely dimensionless, even the Comedian. You're supposed to feel some emotion towards him, not total indifference. Which is even more sad because Jeffrey Dean Morgan is such a wicked actor. And the violence? WTF, it felt like I was watching My Blood Valentine. There are just to many "shake my head," "can't look at the screen because its too embarassing" moments.
Its sad and total waste. Watchmen will not be remebered as a great novel by the new generation. Just "another" comic book movie. Only one shot at this one and they blew it.
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03-06-2009, 12:49 PM
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#22
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
Interesting opinion.... But the movie was less boring then the novel.
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03-06-2009, 03:34 PM
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
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Originally Posted by onecoin
Watchmen - Time of Death: 12:01am. Watchmen is officially ruined. How do you mess it up this bad? No wonder Alan Moore is always pissed when they make his books into movies. Nothing felt right, sure it looks good but it has no energy (and i don't just mean action) even the actors looked bored. This book is old school this movie lost all that. It wants to be cartoonish with a modern style. I'm sure it can be done, but it wasn't done here. Sad. The plot is there, but its not all about plot and framing, the characters have no character, they're all just cardboard cutouts in costume. Completely dimensionless, even the Comedian. You're supposed to feel some emotion towards him, not total indifference. Which is even more sad because Jeffrey Dean Morgan is such a wicked actor. And the violence? WTF, it felt like I was watching My Blood Valentine. There are just to many "shake my head," "can't look at the screen because its too embarassing" moments.
Its sad and total waste. Watchmen will not be remebered as a great novel by the new generation. Just "another" comic book movie. Only one shot at this one and they blew it.
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Alan Moorschach: "Someday they will look up and ask me to write a movie... and I'll say NO."
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03-06-2009, 04:09 PM
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
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Originally Posted by Aernaroth
Alan Moorschach: "Someday they will look up and ask me to write a movie... and I'll say NO."
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ROFL
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03-06-2009, 09:04 PM
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Location: Heading back to Kyoto
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
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Originally Posted by Aernaroth
Alan Moorschach: "Someday they will look up and ask me to write a movie... and I'll say NO."
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Hahaha. For second there is was like you spelt his name wrong. Watchmen, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Swamp Thing, From Hell, pure dribble. Its even worse when you compare them to the source material. Even V for Vendetta (to some extent), if they touch Top Ten or Tom Strong I will be very sad.
Edit: Did he really just say the Watchmen book is boring?
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03-06-2009, 09:28 PM
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Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
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Originally Posted by onecoin
Hahaha. For second there is was like you spelt his name wrong. Watchmen, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Swamp Thing, From Hell, pure dribble. Its even worse when you compare them to the source material. Even V for Vendetta (to some extent), if they touch Top Ten or Tom Strong I will be very sad.
Edit: Did he really just say the Watchmen book is boring?
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From Hell the movie was awesome, so was Swamp Thing.
I couldn't even finish the Watchmen graphic novel even if I tried, the art is just awful, and art is 50% of any comic book so if I hate it I'm not going to continue reading the book. Might go see Watchmen on Sunday.
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03-06-2009, 09:43 PM
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Location: Heading back to Kyoto
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
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Originally Posted by Code of Honor
From Hell the movie was awesome, so was Swamp Thing.
I couldn't even finish the Watchmen graphic novel even if I tried, the art is just awful, and art is 50% of any comic book so if I hate it I'm not going to continue reading the book. Might go see Watchmen on Sunday.
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From Hell was a good slasher film. And I think the producers confused Swamp Thing for Man Thing. Other than the plot in From Hell neither of them had anything to do with their source material. But Heather Locklear was freak'n 80's hot.
I think the art is timeless. What's more important is the way the panels are used. Its like Citizen Kane of comic book cinematography. Its totally apparent when reading the panels of all of Dr. Manhattan's monologue.
** Spoiler for the book** What really got me the was the panelling when they killed of Rorschach. In any other comic book his death would have been a full page panel, or even a two pager. The death of the main character. But, no, 1 little panel to put him into perspective. Its not about style, its pure storytelling.
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03-06-2009, 11:33 PM
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WATCHMEN
Just saw the movie.
if you are a fan and or read the graphic novel go see the movie.
alot of people on the net was saying that it sucks etc. so i was worried but it was a great movie.
kept it very true to the book.
go see it. don't believe all the crap out there saying it sucks.
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03-06-2009, 11:52 PM
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
I thought it was rather well done overall.
The characterization of Rorschach was particularly spot-on. The delivery of his answers during the ink blot test, his infamous lines in the cafeteria - they all seemed directly off of the comic panels.
Ozymandias was the character who I think got the worse treatment by far.
The action was remarkably low-key overall and certainly nowhere near as graphic as I thought it would be. Comparing it at all to the horrid "torture porn" in theaters today is absolutely laughable.
I'm never surprised at the abuse the graphic novel takes (particularly on this board). It's "cool" to hate anything older and popular of course ! The other issue is most of the people bashing it are in their late teens to very early twenties... The fact that many of the concepts featured in any of today's books and comic characters come directly form both Watchmen and Dark Knight returns is completely lost on them.
Hell, DC comics wouldn't exist without those two books coming along and boosting sales when they did.
It's one of the top 100 works of literature of all time (in a number of publications), somehow I think it'll endure the "cool" kids here bashing it.
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03-07-2009, 12:48 AM
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Re: Because I'm Watching... For Some Men.
go see it......IN IMAX. It literally blew my mind. I thought it was great. I like Zack Snyder's direction and it was done somewhat true to the novel. I'm gonna have to dig out those old comics now. Did anybody else notice younger Rorshach was younger Leonidas in 300?
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