Missing history: a New thought on Transformers: Prime

[Joalro]

Transformers: Prime obviously brings up continuity issues. Not just between itself and WFC, but between reality and Hasbro.

Hasbro has stated ages ago that Transformers: Prime is within the same continuity as WFC. Then we saw trailers for Prime. The design of the characters was simply too fundamentally different from WFC to be a direct continuation. But Hasbro maintained that they were of the same continuity.

Then we saw the show. The differences were just too many. The designs were completely different. Everyone's unfamiliarity with Dark Energon. The very effects of Dark Energon (although the effects are not directly contradictory, since Dark Energon was not used on the dead in WFC).

So we were convinced, the shows were not connected. Then people asked. Hasbro Europe said it wasn't connected, then Hasbro US maintained it was. So, how can Hasbro really be trying to keep these two things connected when they are so it seems so clear that the two are unrelated.

Perhaps, just perhaps, Hasbro is not out to lunch. We know that Prime is going to be doing a lot of exploration of the history of The War. We also know there are already 4 seasons planned with a production bible outlining them. Perhaps Prime's history is more rich than we originally imagined. Perhaps the two media ARE connected.

WFC in many ways seems very much like a prequel to G1 (despite there being several discontinuities to that as well). The characters have similar personalities, the War seems to have a very G1-esque feel to it. With a few minor tweaks, WFC could indeed be a prequel to G1.

What if Prime is going to be a fractured continuity from G1, much in the way that the writers, Kurtzman and Orci, did for the newest Star Trek movie. The war was headed in the same direction as G1, with actually very little happening from leaving cybertron to colliding with earth. And then something happened, something epic, that changed everything. One event that led to another, that led to another, that led to Prime. We know that's very much within the whelm of probability knowing who the writers are.

Some things that would need to be included would be a reformatting, similar in fashion to the Great Upgrade from the Beast Era, resulting in different appearances. Also, somehow knowledge of Dark Energon must somehow be contaminated.

Part of me truly believes that the differences in the show are intended to create disbelief so that the revelations from the show will seem more epic.

And for one more element to my argument, note that any time images from the past are shown, they ARE within continuity with WFC. Cybertron itself looks just like the one from WFC, as well as the actual designs for the Autobots and Decepticons in the pictures of the past war.


Do you think this is stretching it, or is Hasbro repeating "they are the same time-line" with a small smile supposed to be a clue?

[osotech]

op mention (dont remember witch episode) that megatron have
a long memory (or a longer memory than he think)...
maybe they will come with a reason for the unfamiliarity with
dark energon (memory lost, too long time since wfc, who know)

[Joalro]

Perhaps it's a special property of Dark Energon itself. Obviously, Dark Energon can have a negative effect on the Transformer system (I.E. Ratchet's comment during the undead fight). Possibly a reaction due to Energon-Dark Energon interaction. Maybe the Energon in the system purges the Dark Energon, including knowledge of it, at an exponential-decay, resulting in only a faint knowledge of it's properties.

On that, note, perhaps it's Dark Energon itself that is the key to all this! Perhaps Dark Energon is the true separation between G1 and Prime. G1 never had it, Prime universe does. That could be the key initial step that changed history forever!

[Goji_tron]

Maybe the reason why some of the bots forgot about the Dark Energon in Prime is maybe because of the past battles was so extensive it made them forget about it. Or another possibility is that they may have taken the blows to their heads that made them forgot about it. Another possibility why Transformers Prime Megatron is able to infuse the dark energon into himself the second time is because maybe the effects of being powered by Dark energon is temporary. To further add on, maybe that is why Transformers Prime Megatron is acting so insane because he infused himself with dark energon, had dark energon withdrawl before he infused himself again.

As for why the appearances of the Transformers are different from each other between WFC and Transformers prime, there is a good explanation for that. The transformers change their original shape when they scan different vehiicle forms like how that happens to the movie-continuity transformers. I mean look at Movie Starscream, his original cybertronian form was red-orange with a samurai helmet, and when he scanned an F-22 raptor, his robot form changed entirely. Hence, why the forms of the Transformers looks different from each other in Transformers Prime and War for Cybertron.

Who agrees with my statements?

[Robimus]

They might as well just tell everyone that every Transformers fiction ever made has continuity than continue with this charade.

[Joalro]

Except that there is established facts and origins to all the other transformers fictions... Prime is really a clean slate. Except for a few ideas, we know NOTHING about the prime continuity. Also, time scale is very important. Prime CANNOT be in the same continuity as G1, because they both take place in present day (Prime a few decades after the first two seasons of G1, and the same time as the third season) but have very different things going on.

Prime and WFC take place millions of years apart. it isn't outside the whelm of possibility to join the two by timescale, while it is outside the whelm of possibility to join G1 to prime, due to time scales. You can join G1 to prime by alternate universes, but that defeats the whole idea of timelines.

I'm just saying, maybe Hasbro is sticking to the fact they are of the same continuity for a reason.

[Whisky Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Robimus

They might as well just tell everyone that every Transformers fiction ever made has continuity than continue with this charade.

Like Takara does?

[Sun Swipe Prime]

Originally Posted by Joalro

I'm just saying, maybe Hasbro is sticking to the fact they are of the same continuity for a reason.

The cynic in me say the reason they keep to that line is so they can cross promote the two. If you like WFC check out TF:Prime its a continuation. Oh if you like TF:Prime check out WFC it's a prequel. Oh and there are WFC toys buy them if you like TF:Prime and vice versa if and when they come out with TF:Prime toys. That's my theory.

[racerguy76]

^I agree.

[Larkhainan]

Originally Posted by Whisky Tango Foxtrot

Like Takara does?

And Takara can sell people toys at three times the price reliably so maybe they're onto something!