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Old 07-02-2011, 02:53 PM   #21
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

I wonder if the inserted footage had anything to do with the extra that was seriously injured during that scene.
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Old 07-02-2011, 03:34 PM   #22
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

Interesting more than anything else. Smart actually in the grand scheme of things. Probably saved $100,000 or something to get the exact same effect.

I likes the Island as well.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:56 PM   #23
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

Crazy eh?
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Old 07-02-2011, 05:57 PM   #24
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

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Old 07-02-2011, 05:59 PM   #25
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

awesome scene thanks for posting. Very creative on directors part. Like people said it saved money and created a very different effect all the while still looking freaking awesome.
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Old 07-02-2011, 06:19 PM   #26
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

You know, looking at the two versions of that shot made it easier to notice which parts were real and which were CGI, and also made me realize why Michael Bay's action scenes suck so much.

Instead of planning a shot before hand and setting up the angles and camera movements with regard to the special effects elements that will be inserted there later on, Bay seems to just shoot the practical elements and just clumsily composite the CGI in wherever it'll fit in post-production.

That's why the robot-action scenes in the Transformers movies always end up with the robots mostly out-of-frame and hard to see: Bay doesn't consider their presence at all when he gets his footage and instead just sets up his shots to capture the practical elements.
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:15 PM   #27
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

Yeah, that's how he does stuff.

He did improve A LOT though after the first film at taking into account the robots.
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:43 PM   #28
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

LOL!!! That's just like in the old cartoons where they use some small part over and over again in different episodes instead of redrawing it (like OP transforming in G1). Bay is doing the same thing on the big screen. Oh well...at least he reused his own material and not someone else's.
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Old 07-02-2011, 09:45 PM   #29
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

I don't ever think I've said a nice thing about Michael Bay. That said, I don't see what the big deal is. It's a short segment that doesn't seem to suffer because of its origin.

It would be an issue if a director decided to do something like this in order to save money at the expense of the integrity of the movie. But this is a Michael Bay movie -- it's not like there aren't plenty of other superfluous or irrelevant things that had a much greater effect -- and now I'm back to not saying nice things anymore.
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:55 PM   #30
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Re: Michael Bay uses scenes from the "Island" to DOTM!!!

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You know, looking at the two versions of that shot made it easier to notice which parts were real and which were CGI, and also made me realize why Michael Bay's action scenes suck so much.

Instead of planning a shot before hand and setting up the angles and camera movements with regard to the special effects elements that will be inserted there later on, Bay seems to just shoot the practical elements and just clumsily composite the CGI in wherever it'll fit in post-production.

That's why the robot-action scenes in the Transformers movies always end up with the robots mostly out-of-frame and hard to see: Bay doesn't consider their presence at all when he gets his footage and instead just sets up his shots to capture the practical elements.
No offense, but you REALLY believe an experienced professional like Bay working with complex settings/equipements and what not is lazy like that?

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