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06-11-2014, 12:37 PM
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Till All Are One
When Prime passed the Matrix and died, he said "Till that day, Till All Are one" what did he mean by that? Was he mentioning something we didn't know at the time, using the All Spark as referral?
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06-11-2014, 12:56 PM
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Re: Till All Are One
Orgy.
Most likely Matrix, not Allspark.
Or it could have been "Till all are won."
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06-11-2014, 01:11 PM
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Location: Gernsback Continuum, B.C.
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Re: Till All Are One
I always took that to mean peace achieved through the dissolving of warring factions, when there would no longer be "Autobots" and "Decepticons", only "Cybertronians".
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06-11-2014, 01:20 PM
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Location: Autobot City - a.k.a. Guelph
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Re: Till All Are One
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Originally Posted by jjwankenobi
I always took that to mean peace achieved through the dissolving of warring factions, when there would no longer be "Autobots" and "Decepticons", only "Cybertronians".
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Yup. No more wars.
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06-11-2014, 01:31 PM
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Re: Till All Are One
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Originally Posted by MULTIPLEX
Yup. No more wars.
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Damn, here I thought it meant till they all found a way to combine into one form or as Metroplex79 simply put it "Orgy"!
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06-11-2014, 01:51 PM
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Location: Gernsback Continuum, B.C.
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Re: Till All Are One
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Originally Posted by MULTIPLEX
Yup. No more wars.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuG
Damn, here I thought it meant till they all found a way to combine into one form or as Metroplex79 simply put it "Orgy"!
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Let's split this 50/50 and say "Peace Orgy" .
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06-11-2014, 02:30 PM
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Re: Till All Are One
I think it was meant to be a motto for the Autobots as a whole. That's why they were all chanting it at the end of the movie. It's a sign of unity amongst their ranks, almost like a battle cry of sorts.
It also has certain religious aspects to it, as in the idea that all Cybertronian life joins the Matrix/Allspark after death. That concept was also explored in beast Wars and other TF fiction.
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06-11-2014, 02:33 PM
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Location: GrandValley Ont
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Re: Till All Are One
always thought it ment when they became all one race again, no war... however deeper though was it would be when they all return/reunit with the matrix.
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06-11-2014, 03:31 PM
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Re: Till All Are One
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Originally Posted by Blitzwing
It also has certain religious aspects to it, as in the idea that all Cybertronian life joins the Matrix/Allspark after death. That concept was also explored in beast Wars and other TF fiction.
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That's what I always thought it was about. Although that seems to also imply that all physical cybertronian life would cease to exist at some point as all cybertronian sparks would join the matrix seemingly at the same time.
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06-11-2014, 10:35 PM
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Re: Till All Are One
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Originally Posted by Ironwave
When Prime passed the Matrix and died, he said "Till that day, Till All Are one" what did he mean by that? Was he mentioning something we didn't know at the time, using the All Spark as referral?
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Certainly we didnt know before.
Prime's dying speech is about the Darkest Hour prophecy, and Till All Are 1 is part of that prophecy.
The explanation below fits into the prophecy, too.
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Originally Posted by Blitzwing
I think it was meant to be a motto for the Autobots as a whole. That's why they were all chanting it at the end of the movie. It's a sign of unity amongst their ranks, almost like a battle cry of sorts.
It also has certain religious aspects to it, as in the idea that all Cybertronian life joins the Matrix/Allspark after death. That concept was also explored in beast Wars and other TF fiction.
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