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Old 06-11-2014, 12:37 PM   #1
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Till All Are One

When Prime passed the Matrix and died, he said "Till that day, Till All Are one" what did he mean by that? Was he mentioning something we didn't know at the time, using the All Spark as referral?
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:56 PM   #2
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Re: Till All Are One

Orgy.

Most likely Matrix, not Allspark.

Or it could have been "Till all are won."
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:11 PM   #3
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I always took that to mean peace achieved through the dissolving of warring factions, when there would no longer be "Autobots" and "Decepticons", only "Cybertronians".
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:20 PM   #4
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I always took that to mean peace achieved through the dissolving of warring factions, when there would no longer be "Autobots" and "Decepticons", only "Cybertronians".

Yup. No more wars.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:31 PM   #5
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Yup. No more wars.
Damn, here I thought it meant till they all found a way to combine into one form or as Metroplex79 simply put it "Orgy"!
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:51 PM   #6
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Damn, here I thought it meant till they all found a way to combine into one form or as Metroplex79 simply put it "Orgy"!

Let's split this 50/50 and say "Peace Orgy" .
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:30 PM   #7
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I think it was meant to be a motto for the Autobots as a whole. That's why they were all chanting it at the end of the movie. It's a sign of unity amongst their ranks, almost like a battle cry of sorts.

It also has certain religious aspects to it, as in the idea that all Cybertronian life joins the Matrix/Allspark after death. That concept was also explored in beast Wars and other TF fiction.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:33 PM   #8
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always thought it ment when they became all one race again, no war... however deeper though was it would be when they all return/reunit with the matrix.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:31 PM   #9
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It also has certain religious aspects to it, as in the idea that all Cybertronian life joins the Matrix/Allspark after death. That concept was also explored in beast Wars and other TF fiction.
That's what I always thought it was about. Although that seems to also imply that all physical cybertronian life would cease to exist at some point as all cybertronian sparks would join the matrix seemingly at the same time.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:35 PM   #10
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When Prime passed the Matrix and died, he said "Till that day, Till All Are one" what did he mean by that? Was he mentioning something we didn't know at the time, using the All Spark as referral?
Certainly we didnt know before.
Prime's dying speech is about the Darkest Hour prophecy, and Till All Are 1 is part of that prophecy.

The explanation below fits into the prophecy, too.

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I think it was meant to be a motto for the Autobots as a whole. That's why they were all chanting it at the end of the movie. It's a sign of unity amongst their ranks, almost like a battle cry of sorts.

It also has certain religious aspects to it, as in the idea that all Cybertronian life joins the Matrix/Allspark after death. That concept was also explored in beast Wars and other TF fiction.
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