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Old 11-14-2019, 12:26 PM   #21
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Re: Medicine Hat man charged in retail fraud targeting retailers

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Stealing is wrong, but f*** self serve registers. If I wanted to scan stuff Iíd get a job as a cashier. You donít want people taking advantage of your system, donít be lazy, cheap butt-munches. Hire a cashier and give them a proper register.
I'd way rather deal with a robot than a human.

I fake socialize enough in day, thank you.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:39 PM   #22
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You're right but it just detects weight that something was placed there probably not sophisticated enough to detect the weight of specific items
That would make sense.

However, what confuses me is that they say he used fake bar codes to scan the items at a lesser price. Wouldn't the alarms at the exit doors make noise if the products weren't scanned properly?

Or does that just apply for items with magnet strips attached to them or inside the packaging?
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:40 PM   #23
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Stealing is wrong, but f*** self serve registers. If I wanted to scan stuff Iíd get a job as a cashier. You donít want people taking advantage of your system, donít be lazy, cheap butt-munches. Hire a cashier and give them a proper register.
I prefer self serve registers, it's easy and you never wait.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:42 PM   #24
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I'd way rather deal with a robot than a human.

I fake socialize enough in day, thank you.
Agreed; and I find the self check-outs are much faster than waiting in line.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:34 PM   #25
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Re: Medicine Hat man charged in retail fraud targeting retailers

Oh, so that's where all the Shockwave stock went...
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:45 PM   #26
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Re: Medicine Hat man charged in retail fraud targeting retailers

^ Shockwave is shelf-warming still at every WM here. Is he legit low-stock somewhere?

As for the bar code manipulation, he would've had to prepare by printing them out before going to the store. Then stick it onto the item in-store and head to the self-checkouts.

As was mentioned, if the self-checkout was properly designed, then the system would know item X weighed 200g on the scale and would flag it as an issue if the weight was mismatched.
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:29 PM   #27
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Re: Medicine Hat man charged in retail fraud targeting retailers

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^ Shockwave is shelf-warming still at every WM here. Is he legit low-stock somewhere?

As for the bar code manipulation, he would've had to prepare by printing them out before going to the store. Then stick it onto the item in-store and head to the self-checkouts.

As was mentioned, if the self-checkout was properly designed, then the system would know item X weighed 200g on the scale and would flag it as an issue if the weight was mismatched.
If he was going to this kind of trouble I have to assume the replacement bar code not only gave him a lower price, but also maintained weight.

The other possibility is he went to a cashier and his bar code manipulation was discreet enough that it never drew attention. Cashier basically scan items blindly based on where the bar code is expected to be. They only inspect bar codes if they cannot find it on the product or it is not working properly.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:37 PM   #28
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Re: Medicine Hat man charged in retail fraud targeting retailers

It's terrible lining up in a staffed cashier line and then having someone in front start price-matching more than half their cart.

I'm okay with self-checkout.

From another article:
Staff Sgt. Cory Both told the News he can’t provide too many details of how the fraudulent transactions occurred to avoid encouraging copycat operations.

“We don’t want to broadcast that, so people can duplicate it,” he said. “There’s a way they were manipulating the price coding and using self-checkouts to defeat any store security measures.”


I'd guess he made stickers of UPCs of cheaper products and applied them in-store to the higher priced items.

Used self-checkouts... The hand-scanner would make sense. Using that would bypass the weight-check. I do believe those weight check things are programmed for each item. It's the same technology at grocery stores.

Or maybe even used a cashier to bypass the weight check. Guess to see which cashier might be least aware of the TF products...

Ah well-- glad they got him. Scalping is bad enough. Committing fraud to scalp, is like school on Saturday. No class.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:55 PM   #29
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Who was he on the board? Because he was definitely on here.
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