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Old 03-18-2012, 09:21 AM   #21
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Re: Beast Wars pricing in the 90's?

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I notice how you didn't include any actual Voyagers or Megas of the Energon line in that photo.

So Inferno qualifies as a slightly taller Deluxe than average, that doesn't make him as tall as Armada Red Alert, Scavenger or Energon Ironhide.

Things are what they are. I'm still going to say he's more in line with deluxe scale than Mega/Voyager of the modern era. Even Prime, Prime is taller than him.
There is no such thing as an Energon mega. Megas ended with Skybite in RID. There is no mega of the modern era.


AND of course hes taller than deluxes, and shorter than voyagers, CAUSE HES A MEGA.

Inferno is not as tall as armada red alert, CAUSE HES A MEGA.

Inferno is taller than 95% of deluxes, because he is a mega.

Inferno is taller than deluxes, and shorter than voyagers ON AVERAGE. Because he is a Mega.

These are facts.

If you are planning on telling us we are wrong again, don't. Or make a list of all the figures you want compared to Inferno, and i will take another pic tonight.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:57 AM   #22
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Re: Beast Wars pricing in the 90's?

I can't really say whay they cost early on as my parents mostly bought them as surprise X-mas gifts. The ones that I had been there for were Transmetal Airrazor ($12.99) and Transmetal Rampage ($39.99). The ones I remember having at all were Manterror, K-9, Airrazor (pre-tm), Airrazor (TM), Transmetal Optimus Primal and Transmetal Rampage.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #23
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Re: Beast Wars pricing in the 90's?

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There is no such thing as an Energon mega. Megas ended with Skybite in RID. There is no mega of the modern era.


AND of course hes taller than deluxes, and shorter than voyagers, CAUSE HES A MEGA.

Inferno is not as tall as armada red alert, CAUSE HES A MEGA.

Inferno is taller than 95% of deluxes, because he is a mega.

Inferno is taller than deluxes, and shorter than voyagers ON AVERAGE. Because he is a Mega.

These are facts.

If you are planning on telling us we are wrong again, don't. Or make a list of all the figures you want compared to Inferno, and i will take another pic tonight.
For Primus' sake, when the Pit Did I ever say he wasn't a Unicron Slaggin' Mega! Seriously dude, all I did was compare the Mega price point to the Deluxes of the Modern Era, what I said specifically was that Inferno was more akin to a Deluxe made nowadays. Size and Price Point Wise, than he ever was to the Voyagers that many fans in this very thread said/claimed the Megas evolved into.

Hell, go back and read some of those posts, there were too Energon Megas, the Mega class was featured there, it was called Energon Mega Combat Class or whever the hell it was. It featured Ironhide, Jetfire, Dreadwing, Mirage, Shockblast, Six Shot, Alpha Quintesson, Grimlock & Swoop, Overcast, Energon Ironhide, TRU Exclusive Treadbolt with Mini-Con Partner Rollbar. All of those figures were branded as the Mega Combat Class in all of the official Hasbro Product Catalogues. It was a re-branding/re-naming of the Armada Max-Con class.

The term Voyager was not coined until the Cybertron toyline.

Anyway, the entire point is moot and irrelevant anyway. My point was based on my own observations of the size class. Which I'm not about to change just because someone's bunch gets twisted into knots.

I never said you were wrong either. I simply said that my opinion wasn't changed/swayed by your photographic evidence. Hell Lockdown is taller than Inferno and he was a Deluxe, you even prooved that in your photo. The sizes and price point have never been consistent.

I'm done. I've had enough of this round and round argument over a difference of opinion. I don't need any further photos taken, I can just take a look at my own collection if I really want to compare. Thank you anyway.

*SIGH* Yeesh, is it any wonder our fandom is so damn divided on things when we can't even agree that we have different thoughts/opinions on things.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:15 PM   #24
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There is no such thing as an Energon mega. Megas ended with Skybite in RID. There is no mega of the modern era.
You are technically right and wrong.

Mega -- in the BW meaning of the word -- ended then. Unfortunately, Hasbro had to use the term again in Energon. Energon Megas most definitely existed. However, the Energon "Mega" class is equivalent to the Voyager class in terms of size and pricepoint.

BW Megas -- the point was never the size. The point was the gimmicks. This is why they cost more and why they were not necessarily that much larger. Scorponok had his stinger and launching bee. Polar Claw his spring-loaded paw, launching paw, and all the other stuff that's usually missing when you see him at Value Village.

I think BW Ultras are bigger than modern-day Voyagers. Their price reflected this too.

In the US (where I was) here were the price points:

BW Deluxe: 9.99
BW Mega: 14.99
BW Ultra: 24.99

Modern Voyagers are 19.99 to 22.99 in the US. In modern terms, that makes Mega less than Voyager and Ultra more than Voyager. Which makes sense. Ultras were huge and heavy.

Megas eventually evolved into Voyagers. The price went up slightly. The differentiation from deluxes changed from obsession with multiple gimmicks to increased size.

Ultras went away. They were around in Energon at the $25-$30 price point (US), but then the larger classes became Leader and Supreme.
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:50 PM   #25
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Re: Beast Wars pricing in the 90's?

Like I said before, all these names are linked to price points, just MOST TIMES size is also linked with those price points.

A Beast Wars era Ultra was defined different then say an Energon Commanders (called Giga-Cons in the catalogs).

Anyhow the ORIGINAL POST topic was Nomad wanting vintage pricing on Canada era Beast Wars, I (along with a few others) gave him that. Anything else is just a complete derailment.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:00 PM   #26
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Re: Beast Wars pricing in the 90's?

HAHAHAHAH
My apologies. I thought voyager stared with Armada. My bad.
And you're right, I totally misunderstood you. I Totally agree that as far as price point, The BW megas were like $3 more than current deluxes. So by price point, Yes, 14 years ago the megas were 20, and deluxes were 13. now deluxes are $16+.

And I only put Ani Lockdown in the pic cause it was mentioned that Animated was a bad comparison, as some deluxes are taller than voyagers. Even Ani lockdown is taller than leader bulkhead, when face to face.

Sorry again about that, I dont know what i was thinking. lol
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:17 PM   #27
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Nomad. Back on topic.

The pricing I remember from back in the day on Alberta was $14.99 and $39.99 and that was on deluxe TM rattrap and TM Rampage.

I found a complete set of TM beast wars figured on Craigslist a few months ago for $80 and that was a steal. Unfortunatly looking to replace the beast wars stuff I lost in a moving accident I discovered that prices for them seem to rise exponentially with quality (especially TM) there are a few on my list I havent seen under $60. And I'm still looking for a Ultra Op for parts (need a left arm and mutant face)
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:19 PM   #28
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Re: Beast Wars pricing in the 90's?

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No way they could have been 40$ and then went DOWN, that's not how inflation works.
Sometimes a price can go down while other prices go up, or you can get more of an item for less money. An inflation % is just an average of a basket of goods.

But I do agree that that does look unusual.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:34 PM   #29
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Sometimes a price can go down while other prices go up, or you can get more of an item for less money. An inflation % is just an average of a basket of goods.

But I do agree that that does look unusual.
This is totally true. A good example is the Deluxe Class which debuted in 1996. Priced at Zellers at 12.99 to 13.99 It's 2012 now, more then 16 years later and the standard Walmart deluxe price ranges from 14.99 to 16.99 (TRU/Zellers). Not a BIG jump for a decade and a half.

There is a deeper logic to all of this, but to explain it all would be a big rant better for a podcast or panel.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:47 PM   #30
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There is a deeper logic to all of this, but to explain it all would be a big rant better for a podcast or panel.
F-f-foreshadowing

Well being the green lil whelp I was when Beast Wars started I can tell ya the prices I remembered

Basic - some dollars
Deluxe - A buncha dollars
Mega - A whole buncha dollars
Ultra - All the dollars

That toonie a week allowance didn't get ya very far
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