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Cheers Ian · 06-30-2011, 06:16 PM

Okay....

Can anyone point out to me somewhere in printed Media where "Q" is called Wheeljack?

He was called "Q" in the kids storybook that leaked a few months back, so that's not something they recently changed.

Dino was Mirage. There's been proof of that. That's only a recent change.

GMfan · 06-30-2011, 06:26 PM

^ I think he was Wheeljack in the IDW comics...

As for all the "WTF Bay?!? It's Mirage, NOT DINO!!!", the reason he was called Dino in the movie was to please Ferrari who otherwise wouldn't have let Bay even use the Ferrari in his film. The homage is to Dino Ferrari, son to Ferrari founder Enzo Ferrari. Also hence the Italian accent...this is all to please the company as they're very VERY PICKY about how thier product is portrayed.

He's another fun fact for ya. His voice actor is the "Chicken Thursday..." Olde El Paso guy...maybe that'll bother you more then the Dino thing...

Vain · 06-30-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheers Ian

Okay....

Can anyone point out to me somewhere in printed Media where "Q" is called Wheeljack?

He was called "Q" in the kids storybook that leaked a few months back, so that's not something they recently changed.

Dino was Mirage. There's been proof of that. That's only a recent change.

He's wheeljack in the kid thing too as well as in the game and comics.

Commandoclone87 · 06-30-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheers Ian

Okay....

Can anyone point out to me somewhere in printed Media where "Q" is called Wheeljack?

He was called "Q" in the kids storybook that leaked a few months back, so that's not something they recently changed.

Dino was Mirage. There's been proof of that. That's only a recent change.

Did you stay for the end credits? The credits also list him as Wheeljack

razin · 06-30-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Commandoclone87

Did you stay for the end credits? The credits also list him as Wheeljack

Yup, IIRC it said "Q/Wheeljack" in the credit roll, kinda of how Leadfoot was listed as "target/Leadfoot"

I'm hoping the toy will be listed as Wheeljack and Dino as Mirage. Toy can easily named Mirage by removing the Ferrari logo and make the toy similar to a Ferrari but enough to disconnect its association/obligation to Ferrari.

razin · 06-30-2011, 10:30 PM

My review, from my 5yr old sons perspective.

Son: Cool, there's his trailer!! Can I get that?
Me: Maybe, shhh.
Son: Is that Sentinel the same as your Sentinel? (refering to Cyberverse SP)
Me: Yes. shhh.
Son: Hey, thats Crankcase, you have him daddy!
Me: yup, shhh.
Son: Is Ironhide dead?
Me: I think so, but stop fidgeting cuz I just missed it.
Son: He turned to rust like Hot rod (refering to TFA Rodimus)
Me: Yup, shhh.
Son: Can we go home?
Me: No, and put your glasses back on.
Son: I'm tired.
Me: go to sleep then
Son: Shockwave!!!
Me: shhh.
Son: Theres the police car guy
Me: Barricade
Son: Yea, are you getting him?
Me: Yes, shhh.
Son: Can we go home?
Me: no, its almost over.
Son: Who just died?
Me: Wheeljack
Son: Why?
Me: Were you not watching? Put your glasses back on.
Son: Who did Bumblebee just shoot?
Me: Soundwave
Son: Is he dead?
Me: Looks like it, shhh.
Son: I want to change seats
Me: no, stop fidgeting.
Son: Is it almost over?
Me: yes, shhh
Son: Why did Optimus shoot Sentinel?
Me: Cuz he turned on the autobots, remember Ironhide?
Son: Oh.

Credits rolling
Son: Hey, its that song we listened to in the car
Me: yup.
Son: I really liked that movie!
Me: Then why did you want to go home?
Son: I dunno, long day.
Me: Okay then.
Son: Can we listen to the Transformers song in the car again
Me: Sure.
Son: Can we get the Bumblebee set? (referring to the Legion playset)
Me: Ask mommy when you get home.

End of review.

At some point I will need to watch it again soon. I missed a lot of little things due to the usual behaviour of a 5yr old! He loves TF's to death, watches TFTM/ROTF all the time at home, but is too ansy at a theatre.

Myself, I really enjoyed the movie. I managed to avoid most spoilers except Ironhides death, although I didnt know how it occured prior to seeing it. Sentinel the traitor was def a shock.
Surprised by the small role Megs played, but liked the fact he was still in critical condition from his previous battle. Seems a lot of people are annoyed with how quickly Prime disposes of Megs. Makes sense to me, he was already on deaths door, a 5-10min battle would not have made sense. The execution of Wheeljack was a bit harsh, wish he could have put up a fight.
During Bumblebees almost execution I almost thought they were going to do it, but realized no way it could happen, BB's death would have been as traumatizing to kids as OP's death was to us in '86.

I had no qualms with the human elements, never really have in any of the movies. I don't want to see non stop bot on bot action, I like to see the side stories and how the war effects others. Don't get me wrong, epic bot battles were/are awesome, but a break here and there doesn't hurt.

Very surprised ALL the 'cons were eliminated (by ALL I mean all 'cons with a name....who knows what happened to Garbage truck con and other assorted unknowns). I'm sure we will get more live flicks down the road, so unless its a prequel we will get all new crop of 'cons. Galvy, Scourge, Cyclonus??? Yes please. Although previous continuity shows Screamer returns as a ghost, I do not expect to see that explored in a live action film.

Plot wise, as mentioned, cool to see G1 episodes used loosely as the main plot. Homages like Megs sitting in Lincolns chair, One armed Optimus were cool. I know there was more, but I've forgotten so much already. Bluray now please!

TheLogicalProwl · 07-01-2011, 04:10 AM

So being not so-die hard, I only saw the movie last night. My thoughts.

1. Very good. I enjoyed it a lot. I would say that this version is the finest of the trilogy. The plot twists were really good, and the WTF moment when Sentinel turned heel (wrestling term) for me was worth the price of admission. I truly did not see that coming.

2. I know they were really Australian, but didn't it feel that the Wreckers were the Transformers' version of the Dreadnoks from G.I. Joe? Could have used a Zartan-like character. And that red one with what looked like a bloated codpiece looked just wrong.

3. Less human characters talking, more of the robots, I enjoyed that.

4. Prime for the first time in the movieverse felt like Prime from G1, honorable and noble. But he kicked some serious ass in this movie.

5. Loved the hat-tips to G1, such as Megatron sitting on the throne of the Lincoln Memorial and Prime swinging what looked to be an energon axe.

6. I hope Hasbro doesn't try to replicate that version of Shockwave into a toy because that would gargle balls. And, that Shockwave was a pale comparison to G1. Unless he wiped out a slew of people/bots and said "All Are Dead". Missed opportunity that would have had me cheer.

7. After seeing Starscream's death, know this. No TF death will top Starscream's death in the original movie.

Cheers Ian · 07-01-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vain

He's wheeljack in the kid thing too as well as in the game and comics.

Well that's answers that...I could have sworn he was "Q" in that book.

I for one, am pretty glad he wasn't Wheeljack in the end, his character was pretty lame and ugly to boot.

People are bitching that he wasn't called Wheeljack, but if he had to have been Wheeljack people would be bitching that he's Ugly/British/Blue/Not enough screentime/died to quick/etc.

Can't win 'em all folks...

alexsaurus_rex · 07-01-2011, 10:53 AM

Yeah, I'm fine with him being a new character too. Wheeljack has gotten more badass in my mind lately thanks to Prime, I wouldn't have like to seen him begging for mercy at his end.

Nullray · 07-01-2011, 11:41 AM

I sat in on the late show last night and was happy to do so. The theatre was full but not rammed so we got some good seating. I really want to see this movie now in IMAX 3D. Seeing it regular was cool but can totally see how the 3D enhancements will rock.
I really loved the G1 references but felt kinda stranged out when Cybertron didn't create mass chaos when entering our orbit. I also thought it was strange that Primus (Cybertron) was destroyed for the most part. It looked like a black hole fallen in upon itselt. I really wished BB got the nod for termination. I find he was always a supporting character. He was a scout not a power house. All in all I really enjoyed my evening last night and look forward to seeing it again.