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Old 05-22-2017, 11:20 PM   #1
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FOC and RID2015 Sideswipe

Hey everybody haven't on in a while, been super busy.

Anyhow, my question is regarding Sideswipe. Since Prime, follows WFC/FOC and RID15 follows Prime, how Sideswipe in the game be the same character, if RID15 Sideswipe is part of the new generation of Transformers after the AllSpark merged with Primus to be able generate new lives at the end of Predacons Rising?
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:03 AM   #2
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Re: FOC and RID2015 Sideswipe

Interesting question, but I don't think it has ever been said that Sideswipe was created after the merging at the end of Predacons Rising. Actually, I don't think we have encountered anyone created from that even yet. My take was simply that Optimus doing what he did revitalized cybertron so that it could once again sustain like and eventually create more. Like many, I figure he was off in space doing whatever. Or, as is famous, might just be continuity issues. I mean, look a Grimlock in game and show lol.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:26 AM   #3
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Re: FOC and RID2015 Sideswipe

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Hey everybody haven't on in a while, been super busy.

Anyhow, my question is regarding Sideswipe. Since Prime, follows WFC/FOC and RID15 follows Prime, how Sideswipe in the game be the same character, if RID15 Sideswipe is part of the new generation of Transformers after the AllSpark merged with Primus to be able generate new lives at the end of Predacons Rising?
Prime DOES NOT follow WFC/FOC. They share the same continuity/mythology root, ie. the Covenant of Primus, which was originally the series bible. Same with the 3 novels.

That's why there are so many differences between the three different properties (games, books, cartoons). WFC/FOC Sideswipe is not Prime/RID15 Sideswipe, game Grimlock is obviously not RID15 Grimlock

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Interesting question, but I don't think it has ever been said that Sideswipe was created after the merging at the end of Predacons Rising. Actually, I don't think we have encountered anyone created from that even yet. My take was simply that Optimus doing what he did revitalized cybertron so that it could once again sustain like and eventually create more. Like many, I figure he was off in space doing whatever. Or, as is famous, might just be continuity issues. I mean, look a Grimlock in game and show lol.
Prime merging with the core of Cybertron/Primus created a geyser of new sparks. I'm pretty sure Sideswipe is one of those new bots.

Also it seemed pretty obvious to me that Optimus no longer existed on this physical plane anymore. Especially given the dialogue between Optimus and Bee in the second episode. Bee asks him if he's alive, and he says that it's "unclear", but that he knows he "can't maintain his presence on Earth for much longer". Then literally vanishes into thin air moments later.
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Old 05-23-2017, 12:33 PM   #4
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Prime DOES NOT follow WFC/FOC. They share the same continuity/mythology root, ie. the Covenant of Primus, which was originally the series bible. Same with the 3 novels.

That's why there are so many differences between the three different properties (games, books, cartoons). WFC/FOC Sideswipe is not Prime/RID15 Sideswipe, game Grimlock is obviously not RID15 Grimlock


Prime merging with the core of Cybertron/Primus created a geyser of new sparks. I'm pretty sure Sideswipe is one of those new bots.

Also it seemed pretty obvious to me that Optimus no longer existed on this physical plane anymore. Especially given the dialogue between Optimus and Bee in the second episode. Bee asks him if he's alive, and he says that it's "unclear", but that he knows he "can't maintain his presence on Earth for much longer". Then literally vanishes into thin air moments later.
Interesting take on it all. Maybe you are right but that was never ever how I heard it explained before. My understanding was that each was a direct follow up to the previous. I'm not at all saying you are wrong. You have an elegant way of explaining it. Whether canonical or not doesn't matter. IF it isn't, then it should be.
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Re: FOC and RID2015 Sideswipe

That's how Hasbro has explained it.

Originally, yes they were all supposed to flow from one to the next, but since none of the various creative teams interacted with each other, you got various differences creeping in as the new "Aligned Universe" went along. Hasbro finally had to concede that the three properties (games, books, shows) were indeed separate, and just shared a common mythology.
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