Will you see The Last Knight?

[Rogue_Optimus]

Considering it took me 2yrs to see the last one, i'll be shocked if I see it in theatre

[Pascal]

Originally Posted by RNSrobot

So... you don't understand how filmmaking works, either. Kk.

anyway, i'm out on this thread, cos I'll just end up derailing it with criticism and insults. =D

No, no, please enlighten us, you who seems to know everything about filmmaking!

[steamwhistle]

I won't profess to know how filmmaking works, but I've always been under the impression, from stories & articles I've read, that if something isn't "working", the director can re-write or order re-writes of scenes, depending upon the director's contract of course.

It's not easy - and me, I don't blame Bay specifically -- there are toys to sell, and there is a budget and schedule to follow. I do think it could be much better though.

If only they could re-boot the franchise set in 1984 with the Masterpiece line of toys as the driving force...

[jjwankenobi]

Hadn't planned on it but work is taking us for a free screening in IMAX 3D this Friday afternoon.

Typically, I huff spray paint on Fridays afternoons but that can get costly so it's nice of my office to offer a cost-effective alternative to shut my mind off for 2 hours.

LOL!
Optimus just took
that yellow robot's face!!

[Blitzwing]

Just got my tickets for the IMAX 3D show on Wednesday night.

I've seen all the previous movies on either opening night or earlier. They are certainly not my favorite part of the franchise, but they are still fun to watch. I think I'm going to re-watch Age of Extinction either tonight or on Tuesday.

[Pascal]

Originally Posted by steamwhistle

I won't profess to know how filmmaking works, but I've always been under the impression, from stories & articles I've read, that if something isn't "working", the director can re-write or order re-writes of scenes, depending upon the director's contract of course.

Bah, you know how it goes, it's just more convenient for haters to blame Bay for everything, script, costumes, CGI, music and all. One-man job you know! I still wonder why there are 10 minutes of names listed in the credits at the end... I guess they are all Bay aliases or something.

[steamwhistle]

Originally Posted by Pascal

Bah, you know how it goes, it's just more convenient for haters to blame Bay for everything, script, costumes, CGI, music and all. One-man job you know! I still wonder why there are 10 minutes of names listed in the credits at the end... I guess they are all Bay aliases or something.

Exactly.

Unfortunately, they don't get anyone other than Bay, so we won't really know unless that happens.

I'm okay with partly blaming the gaffer for how slow Optimus Prime speaks. They could save a good 15 minutes if Prime would speak at a normal pace.

[Janitor]

Not to (continue to) veer off topic, but I always thought in the industry there was a reason why directors not only get the majority of the blame, but also heaps of praise when things go well: They make not all, but a lot of the biggest artistic decisions attributed to a film's success or failure. Why else would Best Director be the second to last Oscar handed out before Best Picture? (again this is how I understood it, don't claim to be an expert by any means)
Like a head coach of a sports team: has assistant coaches, GM to put team together, trainers, etc. but when things go sideways they're the first to get blamed/fired (and players would be like actors in this analogy).

So it works both ways: Spielberg is a genius for directing Jaws, ET, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park et al despite not contributing "much else".

[zackmak]

Originally Posted by steamwhistle

I won't profess to know how filmmaking works, but I've always been under the impression, from stories & articles I've read, that if something isn't "working", the director can re-write or order re-writes of scenes, depending upon the director's contract of course.

I heard this too. But I also heard the role of the director having his/her hands in every aspect of a film can be anywhere from extreme to very minimal. I don't think us 'outsiders' will ever know exactly what level involvement Bay has had on this film (and the previous TF films) for each and every category.

Whichever the case, I believe the the director works with THE experts in all areas, and these 'specialists' have to be accountable. If someone doesn't like the musical score in a movie, or the special effects, or the costumes, etc., it makes sense that the people that worked on those things get the finger pointed at them. Even if the director asked for a change in some area, the experts STILL had to provide a revision that was good. And if the director's suggestions are that 'off the wall' or 'bad', I would have my doubt that the writers or studio can't trump the obvious bad idea.

On the flip side, even if Bay gave the final 'thumbs up' approval on many of the things that came his way, I'm sure a lot of it came with the thought that he's 'a non-pro from that department getting material from a pro in that department', sort of thing and his main job was not to FULLY babysit everyone and everything. Otherwise he might as well be a 'one-man' show and do everything 100% himself, which is not the intent of a director.

In regards to the screenwriting, in theory, the writers will always be better at writing than the director, simply because they are the experts hired to do it and that is their assigned role. And the writers will always have more time and expectation to research every bit of detail and flush out a great story.

The last two Transformers movies were filled with holes and many ideas/plots were jammed together. Bay worked with what was given to him, and through lots/little collaboration, his trust was in the writers to provide the best script and for them to know all the fine details of a story. Stuff that Bay wouldn't necessarily know since Bay's time was not 100% in writing it. Likewise, all the specialized teams expect Bay to take the movie's script and imagery and artistically bring it to life in the best way.

So yeah, again, I'm excited to see this movie because the writers are different than the last 2 movies.

[positivelyken]

I saw all the other movies within the first week, and I'll see this one soon after release too. Watching these gigantic robots transform in glorious CGI is a thrill every time.