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Originally Posted by xueyue2
I believe Masterpiece in most transformer collector's mind is about making the toy look as close as possible to the G1 cartoon image.
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Originally Posted by Msol
Our preferences just don't line up in what we value more. You value clean lines more, some of us value nailing to the cartoon model. It's *impossible* to do both. I feel the pros of this figure outweigh the cons, you feel the opposite. There's nothing objective about it.
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Fair enough, I will concede in that my perception of what defines a Masterpiece doesn't appear to fit everyone else's definition.
I do indeed agree that one of those defining qualities is to make the toy look toon accurate. But illustrations are also subjective to whoever drew the character in a particular screenshot. The proportions in one scene are not the necessarily the same as they are in another. The split image referenced does fit well together, but it does so just for that particular piece of illustration.
In order to look toon accurate, should it not be more than just a matter of proportions, color and silhouette? Where or when in the toons do you see THAT many panel lines in the collar or crotch
Proportions are still subjective anyway and I said before, I could let that go; although not ideal on MP-36, they don't bother me as much as the lack of clean lines.
And if we're going to argue how messy Mightron's back is, MP-36 is just as much of a clusterfuck on the back side as his collar area:
In Mightron's defense, there does seem to be a way to turn the trigger guard to give his backpack a more symmetry (except for the iconic gun barrel, of course)
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Originally Posted by positivelyken
For every Optimus Prime, Soundwave, and Shockwave, that do manage a miraculous transformation and look fantastic from almost every angle, you also have the MP Seekers, which are kibbly messes from the back, or MP12/14 and MP25/26, full of such visible gaps when you turn them sideways you can hardly believe the designers couldn't figure out a better solution.
The point is they're not perfect, but they're still really cool figures that more or less succeed at a sometimes impossible task of giving you an accurate alt mode and an accurate bot mode in the same toy.
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^^ Thanks, PK. You said it best. Prime, Soundwave, even the Datsuns (IMO) evoke the best of both bot and alt modes, but in MP-36's case I think he has an amazing gun mode and a less successful bot mode.
