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Old 01-21-2019, 08:22 AM   #45
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Re: The Seige Ultra Mangus pic, seems like Voyage class

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Originally Posted by ssjgoku22 View Post
Takara/Hasbro really don't care how these figures are going to scale with previous lines. Seige and everything onwards is all new and they're probably going to redo a bunch of characters we have already seen (like Rodimus and the likes). As long as the figures are good quality (so far so good), I'll happily buy them for a different scaled display.
+1. Expecting perfect scale when the toyline is forced into rigid price points, is just unreasonable. Even SS, with it's alleged focus on screen-accuracy and scale, gives us undersized and oversized figures, to fit the system that Hasbro has already established. Starscream and Brawl should be bigger compared to the carformers, for example, but there's only 3 different sizes in the line.

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Originally Posted by xueyue2 View Post
Add fuel to the fire!
Another V and L class.
And before someone try to justify this... they are from the same SS line.
Yup that's some shit. Though DOTM clearly has more mass on him, it's marginal compared to the Voyager which sells for almost half the price of the leader.

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Originally Posted by riderman View Post
My wallet is aching but Magnus does look good beside Prime but for 70 bucks?
$70 for a figure that's only slightly bigger than the size class below it... oui Hasbro. I wanted siege Magnus initially but pictures and reviews don't make it seem like the value is there.

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It's not like SS ROTF Voyager Megatron a crappy toy. Do you actually think the "more mass, more paint, a removable weapon and that cloak." really worth the extra price?
Nope. However some folks will still buy it at full price, reinforcing these habits of Hasbro. So long as their product is selling, they have no reason to make it a better deal. Unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Shockwave 75 View Post
My personal favorite comparison is to put CW Megatron next to TR Overlord. Both are leader class toys, but Megatron looks more like an expensive toy. He looks much bigger and more complex. But according to the way Hasbro prices things out they have about the same amount of plastic in them, which is where most of the cost comes from.
Plastic mass seems to be the #1 factor in determining a figure's size class these days. Though, as illustrated by your example, number of parts also palpably plays a large role in Hasbro's costing process, which is fair, but unfortunate for us. CW Megatron is incredibly simple for a figure his size, and while Sky Shadow/Overlord aren't crazy with their designs, they have more going on than Megs does. A more complex figure seems to lose out on size in order to "make budget" - which, at Hasbro's MSRP's, is nearly all profit to begin with.
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