Zeta ZV-02 Core Star (Unicron)
 

May as well make a new thread for discussing this guy. Basically share your thoughts on the figure, compare it to the Haslab (pros and cons), etc. It really looks amazing.

Here is a link on Show Z if you want to preorder it or just browse the updated pictures (they usually update the ad when they receive new information).

https://showzstore.com/pre-order-zet...aos_p1553.html


This is the transformation/articulation video for the test shot of Zeta's Unicron:

https://youtu.be/ykXrKvD5kRc

http://i.imgur.com/kHU9F5I.jpg

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Zeta sucks. He's way too small, doesn't have chomping jaws and is totally IP theft. Real Unicron all the way. I'm a backer.

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I'm in on this.

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Looks weird, esp that face.

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Yeah - I don't see it, this whole "OMG! Zeta blows HasLab out of the water!" take a few folks have here.

It's... good... the better integration of parts/panels is impressive-ish from an engineering aspect - but hardly a stage 10 "wow" factor for me (now, admittedly, I'm the one and only person who kinda likes Haslabs leg-shells).



That all said - is what I don't (relatively) like for Zetacron worth saving (I think) like 50% of the cost of Haslab's?



Hmm. I do have to think about that.


When it comes to Haslab - I do prefer it, BUT: It really doesn't seem to have the "kerpow" factor that a $1000 (Jesus Christ!) collectible damn well should come with.


In conclusion: I remain indecisive.

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I don't think it blows Haslab out of the water but the price point is a little over 1/3 of Haslab. $580 USD vs $210 USD. The panel integration is far better on Zeta and since it will replace the 25th Anniversary edition for me I'm fine with it. My only other gripe with Haslab is pay now and wait 2 years before it's done where as Zeta should be done by December. It's a matter of chopice, you want Haslab you get Haslab, you want Zeta, you get Zeta.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see more takes on Unicron before the HasLab one gets released. I can already see a bunch of pissed off buyers stuck with their preorder while superior (and likely cheaper) versions are being released...

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Something that others have brought up and I've been thinking about too is, will the color scheme still be correct in both modes considering so many planet mode panels become bot mode parts? It seems like there might be sacrifices in that respect due to the transformation.

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That's totally gonna be an issue with the Zeta. Benefit of a shell-former, colour management in both modes can be independent. We'll see how it turns out.

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I'm trying to find a good image of Unicron's back from the movie, but I don't recall him having "back abs" EDIT: He actually does have back abs. When the dinobots attack his butt, you see his back.

Zeta's transformation is a different approach, and that is cool. The planet sphere all integrates into the robot, even if much of it is flipping around and revealing a robot panel on the inside of the sphere panel. The shoulder are cool how they come together.

In short, I can't afford either of them, but I like to give my opinion anyways.
Does anyone want to buy my 25th anniversary MISB Unicron?

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It's funny that some complained about the Haslad Unicron thread turning into a comparative with this Zeta one, then ask "make a thread for it and get it out of this one" so a thread is made and then they come on this one to complain again about it? Oy, this place/forum can be such a good place, but dang at times, it's just so negative...

Anyways, for my point of view about Unicron:

I'm not a Unicron fan all that much and not someone that would buy any version of this character, but to judge the figures for what they are, if I was to get one, I'd have to say that this Zeta one is looking much better for the fact that they did an amazing job for the kibble, as the Haslab version has a fair mess of it.

The difference in size is absolutely not important as this is the one figure that they cannot make to scale in any way. But for the pricing issue, the 200$ range is much more acceptable.

Haslab should consider hiring these engineer as if this Zeta was the Haslab version, I would believe that the ones hating on this version would probably love it.

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Pretty sure Takara wouldn't be down with that sort of thing; pride, ego, and emotional fallacies and all.

If anyone had the gumption to hire the brightest of the 3P/KO industries they would've done it by now, I'd think.

Just going to throw out that the face looks much better and the price speaks to me at a sane level. I'm just hoping Zeta Toys goes more orange/gray than HasLab's yellow/blue.

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Somebody sounds salty.

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I dig it, I hear he’s smaller but looks good. I too can not afford Uni

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Looks far superior to the over priced hasbro unicron. It's closer to screen accurate and has almost no kibble on it. The engineering is more advanced than hasbro, sure there us more panel flipping but at least you don't need a giant stand to have him just stand there and r not $1000 for a hasbro quality figure that is most likely to have some qc issues based on past releases.

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It’s kinda funny, the guy who designed Classics Mirage for HasTak went on to design the MMC Mirage 3rd party MP.

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Hmmm, that's pretty dope. MMC Sphinx is an awesome figure.

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Oh perfect now I can hijack this thread.."Umm it looks ok but it's IP theft .. which is ok along as it doesn't happen to me .. "

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Think you just did :rofl:. It happens all the time with 3P, has been happening for years long before most people would have been collecting. Why do you even care? You're buying Haslab at the nice high price, let those who can't afford it have Zeta.

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funny thing is the dude that said get lost with your zeta talk and start your own zeta thread was the first one to post in it lolol

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Probably. That doesn't bother me as much as the spend $580 USD on a figure and yet complain about a $10 increase for admission to TFCon. I'll never understand that one

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Maybe Wei Jiang will make an oversized version of Zeta's Unircon and tighten up the knee ratchets... They'll probably simplify the transformation too, so it's less panels, and more chunks moving around. And they'll make the head look more like the Hasbro version. Then, charge $20 less than Zeta.
Where did I put the shut up and take my money meme?

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Whoaa whooaa whoaaa...

Do you mean Zeta sucks in general? Cause naahhh they don't suck. Their combiners are quite fantastic.

Or do you mean this Zeta Unicron Sucks? Cause naahhh it doesn't. It's a pretty damn good alternate. Spending a G'note on something I haven't seen a review for as of yet? I'll pass.

eaaaazzzzyyyy mang... eeaazzzyyyy

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Man, we got some straight-up IP lawyers and morality police on these forums, had no idea...

But totally glad 3p is around, competition in a marketplace is always good for many reasons; even my 10 year old understands that basic concept. Would love to see the prices under a complete HasTak monopoly, would be like our telecom/wireless industry...

3p has time and time again showed they can do better with less, look at what they're doing with the legend class now. I say, keep 'em coming, I'm for choice.

I loved the Zeta announcement and timing of it, I hope it has got the higher-ups at Hasbro bricking it a little. I guess if they don't make it to 8000 by October, there's still two more months. What a charade...

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I love 3P and I bought in it before Masterpiece was even in rouge...

But there are reasons why they are competitive and offer more for our money. I am not going listed them here. And let’s remember without Hasbro and Takara/TakaraTomy there is no 3P.

I will most probably ended up with both.

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Bc no one would let me enjoy it on our thread!.. its called revengr .. we have crap currency and we have to pay for shipping ..it comes out to a high price .. but no one ever said I have a right to a toy at a price i can afford .. IP is theft period end of story there is no justification to buying it .. I have 3 p and I know I'm a hypocrite bc id hate it if someone stole my ip able to sell at a lower price bc they don't have to adhere to toy rules and regulations ... but here we are

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I like both Haslab Unicron and ZetaCron. So I check out both threads. That means I have to read twice as many of your posts. It's hell of annoying, dude Just shut it already.

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So...you are loyal to Hasbro..because they are Hasbro? Okay, well, whatever works for you, but that sounds like a perfect recipe for a company to take advantage of someone to me. I assure you, they aren't loyal to you. In this case, it boils down to one simple economic truth - who offers the best bang for the buying dollar AND what price are you comfortable telling a company its okay to charge you? A thousand bucks for a toy, whether good or lackluster is nothing short of insulting the intelligence of loyal fans. I find Hasbro highly offensive atm if I'm being perfectly honest and as such I can comfortably say they are quickly losing my business with their rampant greed. Please, win my buying dollars back. I'd love nothing more.

Oh, and every time I see anything new about Zeta's offering I am consistently more and more impressed. We need a color sample!

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I’m just going to echo a statement from Vangelus- do not defend corporations- they will never do so for you. They are not your friend. Do what’s best for you. Don’t let anyone espouse their morality on you.

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And let's also remember without we, the fans, there isn't much of a Hasbro (as far as TFs are concerned), is there? Give us some credit too.

And Hasbro does not command my loyalty just because. As a fan, they've let me down. The incumbents have gotten lazy and greedy.

Exactly, choice is good. Sure 3p plays outside the rules; they skirt regulatory safety & standards, have little overhead, and exist as random obscure dinky operations with short lifetimes. But, it's an alternative, often times a better alternative and probably better custodians of the TF IP, as far as the MPs are concerned. I'm glad they exist because of us.

Absolutely. Corporations misrepresent their products all the time, they put shareholder value & corporate greed above all else, even lives (eg: Boeing, Ford., Purdue, a millions others...). Where's their accountability, where's their morality.

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Looks good. Can't say witch one is better designed and which one looks better, but I can say which one is more budget friendly and which one is scheduled to be delivered earlier.

I always thought crowdfunding was a means for the little guy to get a project off the ground, not a way for a billion dollar corporation to mitigate risk and losses. Leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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Exactly. They've found a way to transfer the risk to us, precisely that. Normally in the real word, there's a risk/reward trade-off. Since we're bearing most of the risk, what's our upside, our reward here? Sure ain't the price.

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Gents - this is to let you know these two comments have swayed me to finally decide to bail on Hasbrocron. I was on the fence - despite bad feelings about it - but you have articulated the "ethics issue" I knew was there but couldn't quite put into words. Seeing it put like you have above really brings clarity and focus to the corporate avarice that this Haslab project is just soaking in.

...I, and my wallet, thank you. ;)

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Definitely a wise choice bro, good on you :highfive:

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I'm sorry "our thread?" What exactly does that mean? Threads that invite discussion and multiple authors, replies, responses, opinions etc now have ownership? I don't recall seeing that before. Regardless I've what I said before I don't see anyone attacking your purchases per say just that people are divided on what they choose to spend money on. No one is right or wrong on this, it's just a matter of choice.

If people don't like the product you choose to spend money on why care? It's not their money and no one should tell you how to spend yours, but referring to the Zeta trollers and how you dispensed with them for a concept as simple and foolish as revenge (your words) is just that, foolish. When you get your Haslab Uni show it off, it will be a great purchase for you.

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Seriously, can someone edit that goddamn picture so we don't have a horizontal scrollbar in this thread?

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I tried to make it smaller. The picture was damn huge and if I go any smaller, it begins to cut pieces out.

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Ever have someone get mad at you because you said a movie they liked or a band they love was not your cup of tea and state your personal, subjective reasons? I suspect, it's like that.

They drop big money on something, and suddenly, people are offering up reasons why they don't think that product is worth the cost or effort, making them maybe second guess their expenditure as maybe an unwise choice. And since they've gone all-in so to speak, emotionally and financially, they take that criticism as criticism of themselves and their life choices rather than just criticism of the product.

The tone is so blatantly defensive.

At least that's what I'm subjectively seeing.

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Much obliged. :highfive:

Just irked my OCD to see that scrollbar and needing to scroll to read certain posts in their entirety.