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ssjgoku22 01-11-2019 05:39 AM

Most Disappointing Figures of 2018
 
I'll start off with this one. Takara's God Ginrai, in my experience with it, was abysmal. God Bomber kept falling apart on his own, and in combined mode, I could not get the figure to stand up on it's own for the life of me. I eventually purchased the Perfect Effects PC-18 kit, which addresses the weak legs, but still, the combined mode feels wobbly. The figure itself is a perfect example of a great idea executed terribly. The real issue is that the entire figure from the legs down has absolutely no heft (the legs are pretty much a bunch of flimsy panels that barely tab together). I love the way the figure looks, but Takara really rushed this one without fully thinking it through.

Also imagine the price of this figure plus having to purchase all of the Perfect Effect kits to make it feel complete (well over $300).

alternatorfan 01-11-2019 07:11 AM

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Yeah its engineering is wonky.

justprime 01-11-2019 08:45 AM

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There almost all disappointing due to one or more things ...QC issues are more apparent, the hollows in the plastic definatly size and price point (before anyone jumps here the price of oil is at an all time low plastics being the main consumer of.. moving there production from China to cheaper wages in Vietnam should have stabilized prices not increased )to name a few the fact that they have reverted to g1 designs and reissues (prime without a trailer for 3x original price
.(no engineering or development cost here) really) tells me that the collectors they ignored for years are needed now for there profit margins.


In my humble opinion..

Pascal 01-11-2019 10:24 AM

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The entire Cyberverse line.

MapleMegatron 01-11-2019 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjgoku22 (Post 779170)
I'll start off with this one. Takara's God Ginrai, in my experience with it, was abysmal. God Bomber kept falling apart on his own, and in combined mode, I could not get the figure to stand up on it's own for the life of me. I eventually purchased the Perfect Effects PC-18 kit, which addresses the weak legs, but still, the combined mode feels wobbly. The figure itself is a perfect example of a great idea executed terribly. The real issue is that the entire figure from the legs down has absolutely no heft (the legs are pretty much a bunch of flimsy panels that barely tab together). I love the way the figure looks, but Takara really rushed this one without fully thinking it through.

I agree, I really didnt like that toy and how it turned out. I havent touched it since I combined him the first time. Although that's a 2017 toy.

Alexander Quinn 01-11-2019 10:37 AM

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Studio Series VW Bumblebee. Not screen accurate, floppy, flimsy, small, overly fiddly, and pricey. Plus mine at least absolutely refuses to tab together securely. His car mode looks like it got hit by a truck and repaired on the cheap.

Marcotron 01-11-2019 10:56 AM

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The $10 price jump for deluxes has effectively ended my willingness to purchase them. I am not impressed by a box, over a bubble pack.

The only figure I'm looking forward to is Reflector, which will cost 3 x $30, totaling $90! I might as well look into 3P versions.

ssjgoku22 01-11-2019 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justprime (Post 779172)
There almost all disappointing due to one or more things ...QC issues are more apparent, the hollows in the plastic definatly size and price point (before anyone jumps here the price of oil is at an all time low plastics being the main consumer of.. moving there production from China to cheaper wages in Vietnam should have stabilized prices not increased )to name a few the fact that they have reverted to g1 designs and reissues (prime without a trailer for 3x original price
.(no engineering or development cost here) really) tells me that the collectors they ignored for years are needed now for there profit margins.


In my humble opinion..

Agreed. And yes, there is tons of hollow space in God Ginrai. I have him next to Armada leader Prime, and the quality was night and day. Armada Prime felt Prime felt like an MP in terms of plastic quality and heft when compared to God Ginrai. Super disappointing.

ssjgoku22 01-11-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pascal (Post 779178)
The entire Cyberverse line.

Yup, nothing but crap.

ssjgoku22 01-11-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MapleMegatron (Post 779179)
I agree, I really didnt like that toy and how it turned out. I havent touched it since I combined him the first time. Although that's a 2017 toy.

I got him in 2018. I guess for this thread if you want to mention a Transformer that was purchased in 2018 (even if it's not from 2018), that's fine.

TRUCKvsGUN 01-11-2019 11:38 AM

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I can honestly say I don't recall having bought any disappointing figures in 2018. I bought some that were less than stellar, but in every case I knew what I was buying ahead of time and getting into. A little research goes a long way.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot 01-11-2019 11:52 AM

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All the Siege figures that have great moulds but are ruined by being painted so that they look like they've been rolling in shit.

Collectingtoys 01-11-2019 12:26 PM

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This disappointment has already been brought up in other threads already, but the vehicle mode of Moonracer, Novastar...eventually Chromia, Greenlight, Lancer and whatever future characters they can milk from that mold.

I am happy with the robot mode.

OptimusB38 01-11-2019 12:42 PM

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Garbage

Yonoid 01-11-2019 12:49 PM

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I haven't opened all the POTP figures yet but I have to say most of the deluxes and voyagers felt like a big step back in terms of quality and design.

steamwhistle 01-11-2019 01:31 PM

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:primelaugh: The most disappointing figure is the dollar figure of MP-44 :scalper:

ssjgoku22 01-11-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by steamwhistle (Post 779202)
:primelaugh: The most disappointing figure is the dollar figure of MP-44 :scalper:

Good one, but I still hope the actual figure is a pleasent surprise.

Deception 01-11-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcotron (Post 779183)
The $10 price jump for deluxes has effectively ended my willingness to purchase them. I am not impressed by a box, over a bubble pack.

The only figure I'm looking forward to is Reflector, which will cost 3 x $30, totaling $90! I might as well look into 3P versions.

Get the perfect effect ones if you can find them.

Nocturn 01-11-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TRUCKvsGUN (Post 779189)
I can honestly say I don't recall having bought any disappointing figures in 2018. I bought some that were less than stellar, but in every case I knew what I was buying ahead of time and getting into. A little research goes a long way.


This. I can't say I bought anything disappointing, in part because there was so much that I avoided.

ssjgoku22 01-11-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nocturn (Post 779218)
This. I can't say I bought anything disappointing, in part because there was so much that I avoided.

Lol, fair enough. But was there anything from what you did buy that wasn't quite up to your expectations?

Nocturn 01-12-2019 12:21 AM

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RID Warrior Starscream I guess was the most underwhelming, was the only real impulse purchase I made. Even then, it cost like $8, I'm far from disappointed.

There's many I didn't buy after disappointment handling other's copies, though. (cough)VOLCANICUS(cough)RODIMUS PRIME(cough)

Zenith27 01-12-2019 06:46 AM

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PotP Inferno was my most disappointing fig this year. Tons of stickers, STILL buggered leg assembly, and that old mould recycled AGAIN!

The worst part is that now I don't expect a new, proper Inferno and Grapple any time soon. Of course we DID get two Starscreams in consecutive lines so you never know.

Jove 01-12-2019 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcotron (Post 779183)
The $10 price jump for deluxes has effectively ended my willingness to purchase them. I am not impressed by a box, over a bubble pack.

The only figure I'm looking forward to is Reflector, which will cost 3 x $30, totaling $90! I might as well look into 3P versions.

Depending on how you feel about KOs, I have heard EXCELLENT things about papa-toys version of the perfect effect not-Reflector.

Jove 01-12-2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nocturn (Post 779248)
RID Warrior Starscream I guess was the most underwhelming, was the only real impulse purchase I made. Even then, it cost like $8, I'm far from disappointed.

IMO, the mold itself wasn't so bad. The fact that it was 1/2 price may have blinded me to its flaws, but I wouldn't say that it was a bad toy.

Nocturn 01-13-2019 12:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jove (Post 779309)
IMO, the mold itself wasn't so bad. The fact that it was 1/2 price may have blinded me to its flaws, but I wouldn't say that it was a bad toy.


I still like it, but it was just the meh-est TF I got last year. Not a bad toy at all.

ssjgoku22 01-13-2019 03:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenith27 (Post 779259)
PotP Inferno was my most disappointing fig this year. Tons of stickers, STILL buggered leg assembly, and that old mould recycled AGAIN!

The worst part is that now I don't expect a new, proper Inferno and Grapple any time soon. Of course we DID get two Starscreams in consecutive lines so you never know.

Yeah, the sticker thing is always an eyesore. Thank goodness they don't seem to be using them in the Seige line so far.

choomama 01-14-2019 12:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjgoku22 (Post 779170)
I'll start off with this one. Takara's God Ginrai, in my experience with it, was abysmal. God Bomber kept falling apart on his own, and in combined mode, I could not get the figure to stand up on it's own for the life of me. I eventually purchased the Perfect Effects PC-18 kit, which addresses the weak legs, but still, the combined mode feels wobbly. The figure itself is a perfect example of a great idea executed terribly. The real issue is that the entire figure from the legs down has absolutely no heft (the legs are pretty much a bunch of flimsy panels that barely tab together). I love the way the figure looks, but Takara really rushed this one without fully thinking it through.

Also imagine the price of this figure plus having to purchase all of the Perfect Effect kits to make it feel complete (well over $300).

How do you feel about LG-35 Ginrai itself, separate from LG-EX God Ginrai? Is that an ok figure?

imfallenangel 01-14-2019 12:36 AM

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Trypticon for me...

He looked great, but it broke as I was assembling it.. the leg/hip issue.

For something of this size, this price, it's just ridiculous for it to have such a massive engineering and quality issue.

ssjgoku22 01-14-2019 06:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choomama (Post 779419)
How do you feel about LG-35 Ginrai itself, separate from LG-EX God Ginrai? Is that an ok figure?

No, that was one of the main problems with the set. Super Ginrai, on his own, felt very underwhelming. The figure is very hollow for the price. The legs are literally just a bunch of panels folded up onto each other. Plus the awkward feet design makes him a bit hard to stand. After getting so many well designed Prime figures in the past (Armada, Cybertron, Classics, etc.) this one just doesn't cut it (especially at the $100+ price tag). Thunder Manus + the Divine suit, made by Maketoys, is a much better Ginrai experience (also have heard lots of good things about Fans Hobby Power Baser).

If you didn't get Takara's Super Ginrai or the LG-EX set, you really aren't missing much at all. Look into the 3rd party options instead for a better figure (not to mention that you pretty much have to buy the Perfect Effects kits to add to the Takara in order for it to be "complete" ---> these kits are WAY too pricey in my opinion, which pushes the overall price of Ginrai close to $400!).

Undrave 01-15-2019 12:02 AM

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I gotta say Blackwing was a tad dissapointing, mostly because a lot of tolerences weren't there in the whole wingpack/headstalk assembly and mine had somewhat loose hips. He still look nice next to his brother but he's really floppy in hand.



Biggest dissapointed has to be when I impulsed-bought Cyberverse Windblade during a sale. Her robot mode looks good in packaging but the plastic quality is horrendous, the hips on mine are ragdoll loose, her knees are way too tight compared to the transformation joint beneath it (that doesn't lock into place properly), the feet don't lock in satisfyingly in jet mode, the idiotic decision to prevent her head from moving even thought it's a separate piece (yet it wobbles?!), the left arm on mine keeps popping off at the bicep swivel when ever I try to use it and the gimmick is so stupidly designed... there's a giant SPIKE of sharp plastic just where you'd want to holder her to activate the gimmick with one hand! HORRIBLE design oversight!



WHY is it so hard to make a decent Windblade?! Iron Factory made a perfectly adorable one for like 20 USD! Windsaber is still my best Windblade!


EDIT: Oh and my Moonracer has an assembly defect where one of her leg is slightly longer than the other >< DANGIT!! And there was a pair of them when I picked her up ><

alternatorfan 01-15-2019 12:32 AM

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My siege megatron doesnt seem to transform properly into vehicle mode so that is my kinda disappointment.

imfallenangel 01-15-2019 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alternatorfan (Post 779513)
My siege megatron doesnt seem to transform properly into vehicle mode so that is my kinda disappointment.

What's the problem?

I do know that getting the legs to snap in correctly can be a pain... same with the top part...

The worse of Megatron, his head on a flopping panel that doesn't snap on anything and just flaps there...

imfallenangel 01-15-2019 01:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Undrave (Post 779509)
Biggest dissapointed has to be when I impulsed-bought Cyberverse Windblade during a sale. Her robot mode looks good in packaging but the plastic quality is horrendous, the hips on mine are ragdoll loose, her knees are way too tight compared to the transformation joint beneath it (that doesn't lock into place properly), the feet don't lock in satisfyingly in jet mode, the idiotic decision to prevent her head from moving even thought it's a separate piece (yet it wobbles?!), the left arm on mine keeps popping off at the bicep swivel when ever I try to use it and the gimmick is so stupidly designed... there's a giant SPIKE of sharp plastic just where you'd want to holder her to activate the gimmick with one hand! HORRIBLE design oversight!

WHY is it so hard to make a decent Windblade?! Iron Factory made a perfectly adorable one for like 20 USD! Windsaber is still my best Windblade!

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Oh wow, that one slipped my mind as it's so bad that I wanted to forget it altogether...

Same here, impulse buy as I saw it for the first time... then realized that she had no weapon, then the transformation is pretty bad, then the ubber loose joints and terrible connection points... the mechanism that barely works.

So I completely agree on that figure, she stays in jet mode and in the background...

But for decent Windblade, I actually love the RID one, especially the masked version.. very "Macross" type in every way (all modes), including one of the best full Gerwalk mode for any Transformer figure, her scabbard is a fantastic gun. If they could make the "backpack" be integrated and have a rotating or such joint for the hands, she'd be pretty perfect.

http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/pictu...pictureid=3978

Undrave 01-15-2019 02:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imfallenangel (Post 779516)
Oh wow, that one slipped my mind as it's so bad that I wanted to forget it altogether...

Same here, impulse buy as I saw it for the first time... then realized that she had no weapon, then the transformation is pretty bad, then the ubber loose joints and terrible connection points... the mechanism that barely works.

So I completely agree on that figure, she stays in jet mode and in the background...

But for decent Windblade, I actually love the RID one, especially the masked version.. very "Macross" type in every way (all modes), including one of the best full Gerwalk mode for any Transformer figure, her scabbard is a fantastic gun. If they could make the "backpack" be integrated and have a rotating or such joint for the hands, she'd be pretty perfect.

http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/pictu...pictureid=3978


I regret not getting RiD Windblade now... Also I wish they had done an Artic Camo verson of her too, like they did Optimus...



Also, I just took a screwdriver to Cyberverse Windblade, out of curiousity, and took off her wingpack. It's almost her entire alt mode... The part with the spinning fans are just held into place by the wingpack so you can at least give yourself a LITTLE bit of clearance and it reduces the weight of the backpack.



It's crazy how TIGHT her shoulders are though, but it's red on red so I think the black plastic is the culprit for the loose hips (and waist). I don't even mind the smple transformation, I just wish she could just be posed without falling appart!!

alternatorfan 01-15-2019 06:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imfallenangel (Post 779515)
What's the problem?

I do know that getting the legs to snap in correctly can be a pain... same with the top part...

The worse of Megatron, his head on a flopping panel that doesn't snap on anything and just flaps there...

The head thing too.
But yeah my megatron when the arms are folded in tank position they dont align properly and to me feels like im forcing them together imo so i dont like it for the price im paying.

GotBot 01-15-2019 06:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alternatorfan (Post 779528)
The head thing too.
But yeah my megatron when the arms are folded in tank position they dont align properly and to me feels like im forcing them together imo so i dont like it for the price im paying.

This might be a silly question, but are you making sure to flip up the top pieces on the shoulders? I forgot to do that the first couple times and the result was a problem very much like what you are describing.

imfallenangel 01-15-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by alternatorfan (Post 779528)
The head thing too.
But yeah my megatron when the arms are folded in tank position they dont align properly and to me feels like im forcing them together imo so i dont like it for the price im paying.

Just transformed mine to try and see where your issues might be, and can't get anything to misaligned once I get everything in place...
Possibilities..?

Are you leaving the Plasma cannon (the old range of the gun that's Meg's arm cannon) in the right location and simply rotating it or are you moving it to another socket?

Are you flipping the small bits on the top of the shoulders?

Here's some pictures of mine, if it can help you.

imfallenangel 01-15-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Undrave (Post 779520)
I regret not getting RiD Windblade now...

She's the only figure that I went and got multiples.. (masked version)

I did modify the one you see here in gerwalk mode.. I clipped the tabs that would "connect" the cockpit to the shoulders as they are 100% useless and in the way, and I flipped the wings around... and I did snip the tip of the protruding part on the sword to fit the gun's handle in the hand better/all the way down.

Undrave 01-15-2019 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imfallenangel (Post 779548)
She's the only figure that I went and got multiples.. (masked version)

I did modify the one you see here in gerwalk mode.. I clipped the tabs that would "connect" the cockpit to the shoulders as they are 100% useless and in the way, and I flipped the wings around... and I did snip the tip of the protruding part on the sword to fit the gun's handle in the hand better/all the way down.


Looking cool!

alternatorfan 01-15-2019 11:17 PM

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Im an idiot. I recant my dissapointment with siege megs.
I didnt flip up the things on his shoulders up.
Grrr....


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